Long distance relationship with a Thai lady: Can it work?
December 26, 2023 - Reading time: 10 minutes
Updated August 20, 2024
For many guys that are in relationships with Thai women, being in the same country all the time is not viable, and so many will be engaged in 'long distance relationships' with their partners, at least temporarily.
When it comes to long distance relationships, much will depend on your relationship with the lady... How long you have lived together, how long the relationship has gone on for, and many other details relating to your circumstances.
As a leading private investigation company based in Thailand, we often discover that while the foreign man might feel as-though his relationship is very serious, his girlfriend on the other hand might not be so committed to him whilst they are living thousands of miles apart. This can be in part due to some cultural differences which we will touch on in this article.
Providing financial support to a Thai girlfriend
It's no secret that some Thai women who choose to date foreign men are doing so due to the perception that foreign men have money, and will be able to help support them financially.
However, Thai ladies (and especially streetwise scam artists), fully understand that asking their boyfriend for money will be seen as a red flag early on in the relationship. If the lady needs or is expecting financial support from her boyfriend, but is too concerned about her boyfriend's reaction to ask, then she might not feel that the relationship is as serious as he feels.
Of course, while some Thai women are wealthy and make more than enough money to support themselves, you will need to determine whether or not this is the case with your partner. Due to the Thai concept of 'saving face', this can be difficult to achieve, especially early on in the relationship. The lady may 'paint a nicer picture' in order to make herself more appealing.
If your Thai girlfriend works in a bar, massage parlour, or in any form of nightlife or 'adult entertainment' venue, then the likelihood of her hooking up with other guys is in our experience very high, particularly if the boyfriend is not providing any financial support.
Is marriage important to Thai women?
Yes, marriage is important to most Thai women. Indeed, it has been said that some Thai ladies do not consider a romantic relationship to be serious until the knot has been tied and a wedding has taken place.
If you are truly serious about the relationship with your Thai girlfriend, then it would be advisable to get married as soon as practical.
Meeting and forming bonds with your Thai girlfriend's parents and other family members is also important, as it helps to demonstrate that you are serious about the relationship. Most Thai ladies are very close with their families.
Relationship scams during long distance relationships
Unfortunately, being in a long distance relationship can sometimes lead to infidelity or open you up to a romance scam. Most guys that are in love with a Thai lady will never suspect that their partner could be cheating on them, or that she might even have multiple different boyfriends.
The typical mentality is "She's different, it could never happen to me". Unfortunately, the lady is not always different, and temptations can sometimes prove too much to resist.
As we touched on earlier in the article, financial support can be seen as a huge benefit of dating a foreign man. If the lady desperately needs money (even if she is too shy to ask you for it), then she might be tempted to form new relationships (whether long term or short term) with other men who are willing to provide that help.
After all, if you are thousands of miles away in another country, then you will never find out what she is getting up to. The 'Thai girlfriend scam' was popularised by a show on T+E; wherein a Thai lady confesses to having 3 different long term boyfriends... She goes on to explain that some of those boyfriends will send her money on a regular basis, while some others will only send cash when she has an issue or problem with her family.
Developing long term plans
For most people, the idea of being in a long distance relationship over the long term is not ideal. Couples that are not living in the same country as each other will usually look to the future and try to form long term plans which can facilitate the couple living under the same roof.
Whether you're able to move over to Thailand, or help your partner to join you in your home country, will largely depend on your own subjective circumstances and preferences... Is your partner well educated? Does she have a career or profession that can be continued in your home country? Or is she uneducated with no savings and performing menial work?
Likewise if you intend to move to Thailand, then you should question whether or not this can work financially. Many jobs in Thailand are off-limits to foreigners, especially those which entail physical or menial work. There are also strict minimum salaries which foreigners must earn in order to live in Thailand, which vary depending on the person's nationality.
Getting a long term visa for your Thai spouse
For many guys that date Thai women, their goal is to eventually bring the lady back to their home country, or to move over to Thailand themselves.
Depending on which country you come from, this could be a difficult pursuit. In order to secure a visa, you will likely need to demonstrate your relationship through providing photos, chat logs, social media posts, even money transfer receipts if you are supporting the lady financially. Be aware of this and try to create a 'paper trail' as proof of your relationship.
In many cases, immigration officials will also want to see proof that the lady (or man) is stable financially and has reason to return back to Thailand... Typically this can include the lady's bank statement which shows her salary being paid regularly. Land/property deeds, savings, and other assets or commitments can also help in some cases.
Long distance Thai girlfriend working in a bar
If your Thai girlfriend is working in a bar, or another venue which provides 'adult entertainment' such as a massage parlour, go-go bar, etcetera, then this is another topic altogether. Typically, bar girls will claim 'not to go with customers' while they are engaged in long term relationships. The reality of the situation is usually different to this, based on our experience.
Bar girls almost always continue to see other men while they have an overseas, long distance relationship. As private investigators, we are often asked to check this as part of our decoy/bar girl investigation service.
Indeed, if the lady is working in a bar while you are overseas, then she might not be upfront and honest about this. In some cases handled by us, ladies claim to work in a normal job such as a restaurant or supermarket. However, when we have conducted an investigation, we discovered that the lady was instead working in a bar and seeing customers for money. In some cases the lady will have a 'normal' day job, but then freelance in the evening times by visiting a bar/club, or by standing on the side of the road, or by hooking up with guys from dating apps. If you are not in the country then it can be very difficult to find out what is truly going on.
Can my long distance relationship work?
Long distance relationships with Thai women can indeed work, but much will depend on both of your circumstances and the lady's situation. It's also important to realise that no matter how much you message or call each other online, there is no substitute for getting to know each other by spending quality time together in person. Communicating with your girlfriend over the internet will not properly shed light on all of her flaws, faults and bad habits, and it would certainly be a good idea to spend as much time together in real life as possible, before taking things to the next level.
The Thai concept of 'saving face' can make it difficult to discover the truth about your partner's circumstances, especially if you are in a long distance relationship. For example, if your partner is in a considerable amount of debt, or has family problems or other serious issues; then she might not be forthcoming with that information, as it would cause her to 'lose face' and potentially threaten your relationship with her. Discovering the truth while purely dating online is typically not possible.
If you need to keep an eye on your Thai partner while you are out of the country, then we can certainly assist using our surveillance service... Or, if you would like more information on your partner's background then we can help to perform a background check on them instead. Visit our homepage at BangkokInvestigators.com to learn more about us and the services we offer.
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What is a Thai village wedding ceremony?
December 15, 2023 - Reading time: 8 minutes
Updated June 6, 2024
'Thai village weddings', are wedding ceremonies which often take place within the villages and towns of Thailand. The wedding ceremonies are usually attended by family, friends, monks, and people from the local community. The ceremonies are typically celebrated with a large feast for all attendees, music, and the consumption of alcohol.
One notable difference between a Thai wedding ceremony and a wedding ceremony in many other countries, is that many Thai people choose not to legally register their marriage after holding a wedding ceremony. The aspect of becoming 'legally married' by registering the marriage is often seen as an unnecessary afterthought, which many people choose not to pursue. Instead, the act of holding a big ceremony itself is seen as bonifying the couple's relationship, without them becoming legally married.
Wedding ceremonies are important within Thai culture. They allow the bride and groom to demonstrate their love for each other, and to officially announce their relationship within their communities.
It is also thought by some that the act of holding a wedding ceremony will help to introduce their partner to the spirits and ghosts of their dead ancestors in the village.
Did you know? Thai law actually protects the sanctity of wedding vows, and so if you are in a relationship with a Thai lady that is currently married, then you could be sued by her husband. For this reason we recommend performing a background check on Thai girlfriends (or boyfriends), in order to verify their marital status and relationship history.
Can a village wedding help during the visa process?
If your Thai partner intends to apply for an overseas visa in future, or if you intend to live in Thailand long term in the future, then a village wedding is not likely to suffice for these purposes. You will need to register the marriage after your wedding ceremony in order to document your relationship for official purposes such as future visas.
What do I need to marry my Thai girlfriend in Thailand?
When getting married in Thailand, foreigners will need an 'affirmation of freedom to marry' document from their embassy, which states that they are currently unmarried in their home country. You will also need your passport, and certified translations of both. Your Thai partner will need to present their Thai ID card and Tabien Baan (house book).
Read our guide 'How to get married in Thailand as a foreigner' for a detailed answer to this question.
Premarital background checks in Thailand
If you are considering marriage, then we can help to perform a premarital background check. Background checks can help to check and verify details relating to your partner's history before you take the step of committing to them and getting married.
Premarital checks can help you to learn about your partner's life before you commit to them, and to avoid any unwanted surprises in the future. Our background check service is 100% private and confidential.
What is a sin sod or dowry?
During traditional Thai wedding ceremonies, a 'sin sod' or 'dowry' will often be on display for the guests to view. This is a payment which is made by the groom to the bride's family, as compensation for taking their daughter out of the family home.
In traditional Thai culture, daughters are usually responsible for helping to support their parents financially in their old age. In turn, grandparents will often help to raise their grandchildren while the parents work and send money back to them. The sin sod payment can represent a financial safety net for the bride's parents.
How much are dowries? Well, the sin sod/dowry payment can range anywhere from 100,000 THB up to 1,000,000 THB, or even several millions of baht in cases where wealthy people get married. The payment itself usually consists of cash and gold jewellery, but can also include vehicles or property/land deeds in some cases.
If the parents of your Thai bride are well off, or not in need of money, or not comfortable asking, then they might not request any money or assets from their daughter's groom. And in some cases, they might be OK with the groom displaying a pile of money and gold, but then keeping it after the ceremony and not giving it to them. Displaying money and gold allows the family to 'keep face' which is another important concept in Thai culture.
Are Thai weddings expensive?
Village wedding ceremonies are not usually expensive... Costs can include renting a venue, a sound system or live music, food/drinks, clothing/jewelry, and of course the dowry payment, if one is being paid.
However, this is not to say that all Thai people will favour a cheap ceremony. Many Thais like to splash out on their wedding day and can spend anywhere from 200,000 THB up to 1,000,000 THB, or even much more in some cases.
Do I need to pay my Thai bride's parents when getting married?
There is often chatter online where foreigners boast about 'not paying a sin sod or dowry' or 'displaying a plate of money/gold then not giving it to her parents and taking it all back'. If you are considering marrying your Thai girlfriend, then it may be the case that your future in-laws do not ask for any payment from you on your wedding day. However, this will largely depend on their circumstances and beliefs.
Visit the home of your Thai girlfriend's parents and take a look around - are they living mortgage-free in a plush muban in an affluent part of town? Or are they living in a rickety old shack with a tin roof that leaks when it rains? How do they support themselves? What is their income? Do they rely on your girlfriend for financial support?
These are questions that you should ask yourself in determining whether or not your partner's parents are likely to need or request financial help in the form of a dowry or sin sod payment on your wedding day, and whether they are likely to need help in the future. Of course, for a true answer to this question, you will need to ask them directly.
Do I need a wedding ceremony when marrying my Thai partner?
This is a question that should be asked between your Thai fiancé, his or her family, along with yourself and your family. If you are content with just registering your marriage at a district office, then you do not need to hold any form of wedding ceremony at all, if you don't want to.
Of course, most people do opt to celebrate their marriage by holding some form of wedding ceremony, whether or not this is followed through by actually registering the marriage.
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Reasons to Hire a Private Investigator in Thailand
October 1, 2023 - Reading time: 6 minutes
Updated June 6, 2024
Thailand, a country cherished for its rich culture, breathtaking landscapes, and warm hospitality, attracts countless tourists and expatriates annually. However, it is vital to acknowledge that Thailand, like any other nation, encounters its share of difficulties, including infidelity, scams, and missing persons.
In such circumstances, engaging a private investigator can provide essential aid while preserving your privacy. This article will delve into the various reasons for hiring a private investigator in Thailand, focusing on some of the most common reasons for which you might require assistance.
Investigating Infidelity in Thailand
Infidelity can be emotionally devastating, and unfortunately, it is not an uncommon challenge faced by couples in Thailand. Employing a private investigator who specializes in infidelity-related investigations ensures that the truth is discreetly and professionally uncovered. According to a study led by the Department of Mental Health in Thailand, around 40% of married Thai men and 30% of married Thai women admitted to engaging in extramarital affairs. These statistics underscore the importance of promptly addressing suspicions and seeking the expertise of a competent private investigator to either confirm or dispel doubts.
Infidelity related investigations often concern Thai ladies or foreign men that are visiting the country; however, we can also investigate Thai men, ladyboys and foreign females.
Premarital Background Checks
Thailand is a sought-after destination for individuals seeking love and marriage, leading to an increase in international dating and marriage agencies catering to this demand. However, one must exercise caution due to emerging reports of scams and deceptive practices in these scenarios. By hiring a private investigator to conduct premarital background checks, one can obtain vital information to shield themselves from potential financial, emotional, or legal distress.
We can help to verify personal details, employment history, financial stability, family, marriage/divorce history, check social media and even criminal records, guaranteeing transparency and trust before committing to a long-term relationship. Premarital background checks are 100% private and confidential.
Screening Services for Employers
Employers in Thailand seeking to safeguard their businesses from fraudulent activities or unethical employees can immensely benefit from employing a private investigator. In an era where scams and counterfeit credentials are becoming increasingly sophisticated, background checks and due diligence investigations are more critical than ever.
Statistics indicate that a survey conducted by Grant Thornton revealed that 43% of employers in Thailand reported falling victim to employee fraud or theft. Engaging the services of a private investigator helps employers minimize the risks of financial losses, reputation damage, or compromised business practices by identifying potential warning signs before hiring.
Ensuring Business Due Diligence
Thailand has emerged as a prominent hub for international business and investments, garnering the interest of entrepreneurs and companies worldwide. Yet, expanding operations or investing in a foreign country inevitably entails certain risks. To mitigate these risks and ensure a secure venture, it is advisable to enlist the services of a private investigator to conduct extensive business due diligence before entering partnerships or making investments. Through meticulous examination of financial records, on-site investigations, and verification of credentials, corporate private investigators offer invaluable insights into potential business partners, reducing the likelihood of fraud or deceptive practices.
Resolving Missing Person Cases
Cases involving missing persons bring unimaginable distress to families and friends. In Thailand, as in other nations, private investigators play a pivotal role in locating missing individuals, whether it be a missing loved one, an adopted child searching for birth parents, or a critical witness necessary for legal proceedings. Private investigators possess specialized skills, extensive networks, and knowledge of local laws, making them instrumental in uncovering leads and efficiently resolving missing person cases.
If you need to search for a person in Thailand, or even find a missing pet, then a private investigator may be able to help.
In summary
Engaging the services of a private investigator in Thailand can provide invaluable assistance and peace of mind in challenging situations. With expertise in infidelity-related investigations, premarital background checks, employment screening, business due diligence, and missing person cases, private investigators offer unparalleled support and expertise. With Thailand experiencing unmistakable evidence of infidelity challenges, enlisting a private investigator ensures swift resolution, safeguarding personal relationships. Furthermore, private investigators contribute to preventing scams, fraudulent acts, and protecting businesses, making them indispensable allies for individuals and companies operating in Thailand.
Please visit our homepage at BangkokInvestigators.com to learn more about us and the services that we offer; or feel free to get in touch with us for a free, no obligation quote.
What You Need to Know Before Marrying a Thai Lady
September 21, 2023 - Reading time: 6 minutes
Updated August 20, 2024
Thailand, a nation renowned as "The Land of Smiles," draws countless visitors annually due to its breathtaking scenery, abundant cultural legacy, and inviting demeanour. In light of the growing global connections, there has been a rise in the demand for Thai women as desirable companions by many men hailing from foreign lands. Nevertheless, entering into a union with a person from a contrasting background may present hurdles if one lacks familiarity with their unique practices, customs, and lifestyle.
In this article, we will explore what you need to know before marrying a Thai lady, including cultural differences, expectations, and practical considerations.
Understanding Thai Culture
Thai culture is deeply rooted in traditions, Buddhism, and respect for elders. It is essential to familiarize yourself with some key aspects of Thai culture before considering marriage:
1. Family Values
The concept of family is highly revered in Thai culture. Thai women are often expected to take care of their parents and siblings, and family gatherings are an integral part of their lives. Recognizing and respecting this strong family bond is crucial.
2. Respect for Hierarchy
Thai society values hierarchy and respect for authority. This is evident in the way Thai people interact with each other, particularly with elders and those of higher social status. It is important to understand and practice deference towards your Thai partner's family members and societal customs.
3. Buddhism
Thailand is predominantly a Buddhist country, and Buddhism deeply influences Thai people's way of life. Understanding and accepting the role Buddhism plays in your Thai partner's life will help you navigate potential challenges related to religious differences.
4. Expectations and Values
When entering into a relationship with a Thai lady, it is important to be aware of the expectations and values that may differ from your own.
5. Gender Roles
Thai society tends to adhere to traditional gender roles, where men are expected to be the providers and women fulfill domestic duties. However, as Thailand becomes more modernized, many Thai women pursue careers and take on independent roles. Discussing and understanding each other's expectations regarding gender roles will help avoid future conflicts.
6. Financial Responsibility
As the breadwinner, financial responsibility often falls on the man in Thai culture. However, it is important to discuss expectations regarding finances openly and establish a mutual understanding to prevent any misunderstandings later on.
7. Age Difference
Marriages with significant age gaps are not uncommon in Thailand. Thai women may be more open to age differences in relationships, so long as the man is financially stable and can provide security. However, it is crucial to ensure that both partners have a genuine and mutual connection, rather than being solely based on financial aspects.
Practical Considerations
Apart from cultural aspects, there are several practical considerations to keep in mind before marrying a Thai lady:
Language Barriers: Communication is vital in any relationship, and if your Thai partner does not speak your native language fluently, it can lead to challenges. Encouraging your partner to learn your language while also making an effort to learn and understand Thai will help bridge the language barrier.
Infidelity and Scams: Due to the prevalence of infidelity and romance scams in Thailand, we recommend performing a premarital background check on Thai girlfriends... Background checks can help to confirm all of the details relating to your partner and her history. Did you know? If you are in a romantic relationship with a Thai lady that is currently married, then under Thai law you could be sued by her husband - for this reason we recommend at least checking a lady's marriage/divorce history, whether or not you decide to run a complete background check on her.
Visa and Immigration: Understanding the visa and immigration process is essential to ensure a smooth transition if you plan to live in Thailand or bring your Thai spouse to your home country. Consulting with immigration experts or seeking legal advice will help you navigate the complexities of the visa process.
Long-Term Plans: Discuss your long-term plans with your Thai partner. Do you plan to settle in Thailand or relocate to your home country eventually? These discussions are important to ensure that both partners are on the same page and have realistic expectations for the future.
Conclusion
Entering into a union with a Thai woman can bring immense satisfaction, but it necessitates acknowledging and embracing the disparities rooted in culture that accompany such a commitment. To establish a solid groundwork for an enduring and compatible marriage, it is crucial to familiarize oneself with Thai customs, openly discuss hopes and principles, and give practical matters due consideration. It is important to bear in mind that each relationship is distinct, and fostering enduring happiness and unity relies greatly on open dialogue, reverence, and amicability.
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